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AislingGrobaniac	Can we help each other too?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1353 (07/23/08 10:36:14) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None I see all these threads about raising money for needy children in other countries and stuff, but what about needy Grobanites right here? There are several Grobanites who have mentioned needs: SienaJackson needs an operation to fix her teeth (and her self-esteem), but the friend who promised to help her pay for it keeps having to reschedule. MooooseForJosh needs a car that's actually driveable (a relative sold her a piece of junk). And poor Grobanadianatuog has a medical condition that is causing her weight to skyrocket out of control; she needs a specialist pronto. Isn't there anything we can do to help our sisters? Or brothers; I'm sure there are some I don't know about. I'd organize it myself, but I have no clue how to go about it. Anyone have any ideas? BE A FAN -- RESPECT THE MAN!! "Alejate?" Ah-le-HOTTIE!!! If you're reading this, I'm your Grobie sis! And Aisling is my name! Originator of the "Halo" Greeting Cucumber Lady and resident Martha Stewart Josh's Angel Of The Keyboards JGV-ID#009
autumnsoleil		#1	[-]
Posts: 730 (07/23/08 12:15:56) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Aisling...I hear you!! I have often thought the same thing. I think the real problem here is that there is no way to verify that people's requests are honest and that "our" money was really going to someone in real need. I happen to" know" two of the people you speak of and so I am not suggesting that they are dishonest in any way but it is often hard to tell.Sometimes when I give I just do so and ask god to have it work out however it needs to for the highest good of all. Sometimes that may mean the money goes for someone to buy questionable things but then maybe that leads that person to someone who will help them somehow...I can't control much so I just try very hard(not always sucessful!!!) to let it go and just ask that somehow what I've done is for the good.When it comes to a foundation though often the contributors want an accounting of where their money has gone and so this sort of giving might be had to track. I suggest you contact the people running the foundation and ask if this is a possibility or something Josh has thought of before.I've often wondered why he doesn't donate to any animal rescue groups too, knowing his love for Sweeney.Or even a small fund to help kids go to Interlochen. My son went this summer and it was very expensive even with the aid they offered. Good idea and your heart is certainly in the right place. }}.....Deb....{{ Last Edited By: autumnsoleil 08/02/08 12:43:03. Edited 1 times.
Boneless in AZ		#2	[-]
Posts: 3452 (07/23/08 14:04:27) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I'm sure Josh gives to organizations we don't hear about. ((Ais)) Great idea... Grobie sister to Vesna, Liz, Stephanie, Kim, Ellen, Karen, Aly, Keren, Lori, Dyanna, Robin, Ana, Stephanie,& Christina. First annual Grobanites' Day Aug 27th 2008 "This world was never meant for one as beautiful as you."
AislingGrobaniac		#3	[-]
Posts: 1354 (07/23/08 14:12:28) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	autumnsoleil wrote: I suggest you contact the people running the foundation and ask if this is a possibility or something Josh has thought of before. I really don't think that's an option. If it got out that Josh was giving money to his fans, everybody would be lining up with their hands out. That's why I'm suggesting we do it ourselves. Maybe this isn't the right place to post this, but I didn't know where else to put it. I'd pay for Siena's operation and buy Moooose a car myself if I could afford it. And if I knew a specialist who deals with Grobanadianatuog's problem, I'd refer her in a heartbeat. But I'd be a charity case myself if I didn't have a husband with a darn good job (and we still need for me to find a better job than the one I have). BE A FAN -- RESPECT THE MAN!! "Alejate?" Ah-le-HOTTIE!!! If you're reading this, I'm your Grobie sis! And Aisling is my name! Originator of the "Halo" Greeting Cucumber Lady and resident Martha Stewart Josh's Angel Of The Keyboards JGV-ID#009
Corie		#4	[-]
Posts: 233 (07/23/08 16:48:44) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	The great Russian thinker Tolstoy decided that the only thing he could do was to "love the one who crosses my path," and I think that is correct. So we could all make a pledge to work harder to do exactly that. Besides the work for the charitable activities here on the board, we can also pay closer attention and be generous to people who cross our path. Peace to all, Corie Last Edited By: Corie 07/23/08 22:36:08. Edited 3 times.
HiTekGal	I know Grobanites have helped each other out informally but	#5	[-]
Posts: 3868 (07/23/08 18:17:10) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Grobanites help each other out but I think in the past we have been told not to use the message boards to request donations unless it is an approved GFC or JGF project. Circulating email among Grobie buddies is the best way to help individuals out. The Josh Groban Foundation has helped individuals in rare cases but not fans and generally an organization is helped - the South central scholars, Josh's high school, etc. The focus there is always on children through college. If you can help someone informally it is probably best. ~~~Ca. Alice~~~ The cookbook is sold out!!!
Corie		#6	[-]
Posts: 234 (07/23/08 22:35:25) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks Alice. I changed my original post. Obviously you are right. I am ever the idealist - heart in the right place with my head on crooked. Peace, Corie
DonnieDarkly		#7	[-]
Posts: 5965 (07/24/08 03:21:20) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Great idea. I would like to help if I can. We need to organize. My brain is incompetent right now. People?! ...we all have wings, but some of us don't know why... (INXS) ... i n a w o r l d f u l l o f p e o p l e o n l y s o m e w a n t t o fly, i s n ' t t h a t CRAZY...? (Seal) ~ INDODA ESEBE NZELA UNKULUNKULU ~The man who works for God ~ ~ IKAMALAKE USIFISO ~ His name is Hope ~ ~PROUD SUPPORTER OF RAISE 27 and ALL THINGS JOSH~ INSOMNIA'S ART HELP GROBIES IN NEED ______________________________________ My Josh-fiction & art: www.noondarkly.com (tags: Josh Groban)
maggaloo		#8	[-]
Posts: 6524 (07/24/08 03:54:01) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Cracking idea .... you have to consider also, before starting on this, that some who need help, might not want to accept it. There is a certain amount of pride involved when taking money donated as charity. Someone might need a new car, but do they want to be considered a charity case... Apart from that, I think it is a cracking idea, and maybe if someone is in real need, we could donate small amounts into one trust, and when there is enough, pay it to them, and then go on to help the next person. One at a time depending on the merit of the case, and also to include fans outside of the USA! Maggs xxxxxxxxxx
tagrobie3		#9	[-]
Posts: 164 (07/24/08 09:02:46) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I think this is a great idea, and I'd love to help! Now how are we going to go about organizing it Hugs, Tracy "...your ability to turn all the 'what? who is he?' people into fans is really kinda spooky." -Josh Grobie sister to Rikki, Mae, and anyone else! Josh's Angel of Panda Love :]
PRPLPSHN		#10	[-]
Posts: 1079 (07/24/08 13:57:22) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Great thought this "help each other" idea. I like it. Just need to figure out how to do it the best way possible. Let me just think out loud here and ramble a bit... What if it's not exactly money someone needs? What about non-monetary needs? Help with a referral for something, if you know someone who can meet a need? An old item you could donate to someone? A matchmaking service? Oh wait...I rambled too far with that one...sorry. j/k I do like this idea, though. I say we run with it and see where we end up! (Wanting to help someone is never a bad idea.) Sue
Corie		#11	[-]
Posts: 235 (07/24/08 17:02:49) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Well, I did have one more idea on this. You could call it a "fund." It could be modeled off of a program I have heard of - I think it functions in Africa - where individuals can donate to it and people can do fundraising to help keep it supplied, and then others who need funds can borrow from it - for oneself or for someone else - or receive grants from it for certain purposes. I think the one I heard of provides for buying animals to raise or making farming improvements, but this kind of fund could be for anything. So, there could be a fund and a committee of volunteers - perhaps elected - to administer it. The person receiving the funds could determine whether they could pay the funds back as a no-interest loan or qualify for funds as a grant that they won't need to repay. I am not good with stuff like this, so, please, someone take this idea and develop it more or get other ideas. For sure, count me in to donate. I do wish there were more help for people, and who's to say that there can't be something new that hasn't been done before? Peace to all, Corie
DonnieDarkly		#12	[-]
Posts: 5976 (07/24/08 23:06:39) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Sue and Corie, great ideas, now we only need someone with experience on this field... count me in to donate, but as for the administration... no clue. ...we all have wings, but some of us don't know why... (INXS) ... i n a w o r l d f u l l o f p e o p l e o n l y s o m e w a n t t o fly, i s n ' t t h a t CRAZY...? (Seal) ~ INDODA ESEBE NZELA UNKULUNKULU ~The man who works for God ~ ~ IKAMALAKE USIFISO ~ His name is Hope ~ ~PROUD SUPPORTER OF RAISE 27 and ALL THINGS JOSH~ INSOMNIA'S ART HELP GROBIES IN NEED ______________________________________ My Josh-fiction & art: www.noondarkly.com (tags: Josh Groban)
EterGrobie		#13	[-]
Posts: 3504 (07/25/08 06:16:49) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hmm... Sounds pretty much like a "GroBank" to me Lisa~17 Grobania will conquer the world! Don't believe me, ask Sweeney! Dirty angel member Member of the Marshmallow Club (retired) Member of the Sparklie Marshmallow Club Josh's angel of eternity Protector of Josh's nose Writer of my fic: Fairytale Queen of Josh's nose, and chocolate marshmallows Inventor of the regurgitated mallow bombs Grobie daughter to KAren Grobie sisters Clarice, Cassie, Clara, Morena, Ellen, Laura, Liz, Leiz, Aly, Eline, Elfie and Vesna! Hot Groban Clan Wife
AislingGrobaniac		#14	[-]
Posts: 1376 (07/25/08 10:00:40) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Corie wrote: Well, I did have one more idea on this. You could call it a "fund." It could be modeled off of a program I have heard of - I think it functions in Africa - where individuals can donate to it and people can do fundraising to help keep it supplied, and then others who need funds can borrow from it - for oneself or for someone else - or receive grants from it for certain purposes. I think the one I heard of provides for buying animals to raise or making farming improvements, but this kind of fund could be for anything. So, there could be a fund and a committee of volunteers - perhaps elected - to administer it. The person receiving the funds could determine whether they could pay the funds back as a no-interest loan or qualify for funds as a grant that they won't need to repay. I am not good with stuff like this, so, please, someone take this idea and develop it more or get other ideas. For sure, count me in to donate. I do wish there were more help for people, and who's to say that there can't be something new that hasn't been done before? Peace to all, Corie BRAVA (feminine for "bravo")!! That's what I was trying to say. And to whoever it was, you're right in saying we probably shouldn't use this board to run the fund, but how else was I going to get the message to all of you? As far as accepting "charity," I don't think Siena would be averse to it. I mean, geez, the poor girl makes her own makeshift dentures from those plastic vampire teeth they sell for Halloween. All those pictures you see of her with an ear-to-ear smile? Photoshopped teeth. It frustrates me almost as much as it does her when she posts about her operation having to be rescheduled yet again because her friend suddenly became unable to help yet again. Until we can come up with something better, anyone who's interested can email me at mrsfriskle1999@yahoo.com. Identify yourself as "______ from the Josh Groban boards" so I'll recognize you. BE A FAN -- RESPECT THE MAN!! "Alejate?" Ah-le-HOTTIE!!! If you're reading this, I'm your Grobie sis! And Aisling is my name! Originator of the "Halo" Greeting Cucumber Lady and resident Martha Stewart Josh's Angel Of The Keyboards JGV-ID#009
Corie		#15	[-]
Posts: 237 (07/26/08 17:08:22) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Absolutely, Aisling. I could not get your link to work, so I will write this here. There are so many people - and more and more all the time - who are "falling through the cracks" these days. It isn't that hard to do. Openheartedly, we should be more flexible. I like rules and order the same as anyone, but I would never prefer them at the expense of someone who needed help, just the same as I would never sacrifice someone's feelings for the sake of my idea of decorum or protocol. People's feelings and people's living conditions and related suffering are far more important than "doing things the right way." Uh - that's in my humble opinion. This world needs to change in the direction of a decent life for everyone, and honoring compassion over everything else. We may end up being fools sometimes, but that is a risk worth taking, I believe. Even death is not the worst thing - having the kind of selfish spirit that turns away from other people who are suffering is a much worse situation to be in. We have to share and care more, or we will not grow spiritually. Aisling, and anyone else interested, please feel welcome to write to me at daystarcorie@yahoo.com Peace to all, Corie Last Edited By: Corie 07/26/08 17:19:57. Edited 2 times.
AislingGrobaniac		#16	[-]
Posts: 1397 (07/27/08 18:06:32) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Corie wrote: Absolutely, Aisling. I could not get your link to work, so I will write this here. There are so many people - and more and more all the time - who are "falling through the cracks" these days. It isn't that hard to do. Openheartedly, we should be more flexible. I like rules and order the same as anyone, but I would never prefer them at the expense of someone who needed help, just the same as I would never sacrifice someone's feelings for the sake of my idea of decorum or protocol. People's feelings and people's living conditions and related suffering are far more important than "doing things the right way." Uh - that's in my humble opinion. This world needs to change in the direction of a decent life for everyone, and honoring compassion over everything else. We may end up being fools sometimes, but that is a risk worth taking, I believe. Even death is not the worst thing - having the kind of selfish spirit that turns away from other people who are suffering is a much worse situation to be in. We have to share and care more, or we will not grow spiritually. Aisling, and anyone else interested, please feel welcome to write to me at daystarcorie@yahoo.com Peace to all, Corie OMJ, yes!! There were so many times when I would ask someone at my church to pray for someone, and the first thing they'd ask was "Is he/she a Christian?" Does it matter? It's a person in need -- that's all you need to know. Jesus never turned anyone away for not being a believer (didn't have Christians then). Anyway, I emailed you. I'm not feeling well, so I'm getting offline now. BE A FAN -- RESPECT THE MAN!! "Alejate?" Ah-le-HOTTIE!!! If you're reading this, I'm your Grobie sis! And Aisling is my name! Originator of the "Halo" Greeting Cucumber Lady and resident Martha Stewart Josh's Angel Of The Keyboards JGV-ID#009
mainepatty		#17	[-]
Posts: 747 (07/30/08 20:31:13) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I think the people on here talking about this are very compassionate people. I'm glad there are people like this out there. In the little towns around here - people will put cans out on the grocery store counters for donations when there has been a fire, operation, etc... For more organized methods -- I think a fund is usually handled by a bank (donations). Maybe if this was for something specific - something could be set up through paypal. But you really have to be careful when handling larger amounts of money - it is a huge responsibility plus there are probably laws about how to do it. And you have to be careful about fraud too. I know there have been people on the board - now gone - who have faked some serious stuff. The girl who needs dentures - maybe someone could set up a paypal account for that purpose. Is she a member of a church or organization somewhere? They could handle taking donations for her. I'm sure many of us could send a little and that would probably add up. Maybe the Foundation has gotten to the place where it should consider taking grant applications or something along that line. Maybe they already do - I've never really checked into it. I know the money they raise goes to very good causes. This Foundation is one of the places I feel very safe donating to. Just some ideas. Patty
Corie		#18	[-]
Posts: 244 (08/01/08 11:47:11) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I haven't been on here on this thread in a few days and someone even emailed me about this and I haven't had time yet, but I will! It's just the end of the summer school term and I am really busy with figuring grades. So, please let's keep thinking and talking about this - with our heads together, perhaps we can do some good. I will try to write more in a couple days. Can someone find out about the Paypal account idea for Siena and others? That would be valuable information. I think we should try to take care of a few people - If we are too careful, we will never extend ourselves to anyone. The lines of a Beatles song are, "and when the brokenhearted people living in the world agree, there will be an answer, let it be." I always want to finish that line with one word - "me." Let me be an answer. Peace, Corie Last Edited By: Corie 08/01/08 11:49:42. Edited 1 times.
autumnsoleil		#19	[-]
Posts: 746 (08/02/08 13:09:49) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi, I did some preliminary checking into pay pal and it seems like the only way to use them is: 1..a person would be the" fund adminsitrator" and would have people donate to their pay pal account and the money would be distributed from there.(would need to be someone trustworthy) 2..the person providing the service for someone could open up a paypal account and then people could donate to that supplier.(i.e. a doctor who could perform oral surgery would open an account and people could pay the patient's bill through pay pal, directly to the doctor,car dealership,drugstore etc) I did not see anything else on the site to help with setting up a fund with paypal as the administrator of sorts. The biggest thing about this would be making sure that the person in charge of the fund was trustworthy and was protected themselves from people who might think they were not trustworthy.Maybe getting bonded or something like that...I'm not sure..it gets kinda complicated I think. }}.....Deb....{{
VACarol		#20	[-]
Posts: 162 (08/14/08 21:42:11) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Friend Block Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I hope this idea doesn't die. I've been thinking about another way to approach it. A few people agree to be intermediaries. A Grobie wants to contribute money or goods to another Grobie. She sends a PM to an intermediary explaining what and to whom she wants to contribute. The intermediary contacts the potential recipient to inquire if she would be okay with that, and if so, gets the person's address. Then the intermediary contacts the contributor with the recipient's address. This could work in a number of different ways. For example, say a number of people are interested in contributing money to a Grobie who needs dental work done. They send their checks to an intermediary who collects them and then sends them on to the recipient, after first having gotten the recipient's permission, of course. Or a Grobie is replacing a computer that still works fine with a newer one with more "bells and whistles." She would like to give the older computer to another Grobie who doesn't have a home computer, so she contacts an intermediary, who then PMs the intended recipient. The intermediary lets other people know on the Web site that monetary contributions would be welcome to pay for a year's worth of Internet service. The Web site does not have to list anyone's name, so no one would be embarrassed. Except for announcements, most of the work would be done through PMs. I don't see this as charity, I see it as sharing, with both the giver and the receiver benefiting. Years ago I suddenly became a single mother with no job and a child with disabilities to support. Someone told me she was sending me the tithe she ordinarily would give to her church. I was very proud and turned her down at first, but she was firm. It was a turning point that taught me about how we really are all in this together. Once I got on my feet I began to "pay it forward." What do you all think?

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