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Posts: 122 (07/01/09 15:04:35) |
josh are you really taking flying lessons? i know that you said that you were interested but i wish you would not do this. i already lost one friend to flying.
john was only doing take offs and landings in an experimental plane called a long ez. i wonder what the other fans might think of this.
what does anyone think of josh risking his life in a plane? cynthiavaughn |
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Posts: 6212 (07/01/09 15:06:01) |
doesnt he already risk his life everytime he flies from one place to another?
"i'm involved because i believe that we have more power than we think - to change the world, help others in need, and shape a new
culture of sharing and commmunity... and i think we must claim that power, often, so that it is not lost."
-Lucia Micarelli "No matter what your age and no matter where you come from, everyone can change the world in some way, whether it`s being a mentor to someone younger than you or someone that doesn`t have as much experience as you. If you`re passionate enough, you can do whatever you want and definitely change the world." -Josh Groban "It's up to us to be the change"- Thankful Grobie sis to Cat, Lindsay, Yadi, Liz, Toni, Rhea, KJ, Anette, Amelia, Siena, Nessy, Laura, Elena, Lexxa, Corinna and Janie; Grobie niece to Gaby        
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Posts: 1063 (07/01/09 16:43:59) |
There's a risk in taking his Porsche on the LA freeway. Josh needs to live his life and have fun. I come from a family of pilots - husband, father,
father-in-law, brother-in-law - so I don't have a problem with it. I think he would love it so I say go for it!
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epalist |
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Posts: 4068 (07/01/09 18:50:00) |
So much harder for fans to invest their heart when they have to be concerned it could be broken at any time.
I'm sure his friends and family feel the same way. He is soooo loved!  *Creating
Josh*
Please HELP Restore these Meaningful Memories & Milestones for Josh 
Integrity of the Heart: Not Selling Your *Soul* for a Lesser Goal!!
Josh's extraordinary
work requires a certain *vulnerability* among his listeners, the ability to allow oneself to *feel,* without fear, without anxiety.
His music is not passive listening, but rather of depths that are *worn* and *experienced* very, very deeply, and, as a result, likewise entrusted to one's most significant life events and meaningfulnesses, invested that profoundly. Selflessly protect that *trust,* and a world of opportunities await, for him, for them, for yourself!! Love him *enough* to keep it real! |
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Posts: 12228 (07/01/09 21:05:55) Registered User |
For entertainers, sometimes their insurance policies limit what they can actually do. Nobody wants their star out of a movie for long periods due to injuries,
or to have to cancel a tour. Most stars are under contract to someone, and the company insures their money makers.
THE BUCK DOESN'T EVEN SLOW DOWN HERE - KEEP MOVING!!
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Posts: 5322 (07/01/09 21:11:49) |
if it's true, i think it's neat. my dads busting to take flying lessons but it's expensive. we have a small airport for it just down the road.
and just like someone said about driving...i try to tell my overly protective mom too, you take a risk everyday just by stepping outside of your house. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all i should follow that myself...
Mel
 
Mike: As you can tell, I'm incredibly indecisive... Me: Oh so am I, all the time...at least I think so...maybe... |
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Posts: 8928 (07/01/09 21:25:30) |
I hope that he isn't. I have to say that... it scares me on a personal level being that my Mom was a flight nurse, but quit when her instructor and two of
her classmates were killed just outside of LaCrosse, WI, about a year ago... I can't stand the thought of him doing that.
I am also the fan of NASCAR driver, Kasey Kahne... I don't think that I could handle being the fan of one more man that is putting his life on the line all time. It takes a toll on you wondering when, where, and how they're going to die. 
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MARIA 23 |
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Posts: 28 (07/02/09 00:45:55) |
JOSH IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY GO FOR IT
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epalist |
Loving him ENOUGH to say...kNOw! | ||
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Posts: 4069 (07/02/09 06:09:40) |
The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all Sure they do! Close a door, open a window...and all! There are all sorts of extraordinary things you can do in life that don't RISK your life at every moment you partake in them! I can see how learning to fly could be incredibly exciting, but having spent most of my life in Hawaii, where small planes have had a horrible record of crashing and killing pilots and tourists and families at the rate of one a week, and even helicopters, including both official rescue ones such that they had to wind up borrowing one, and seeing what happened to John F Kennedy Jr... There is no way around the REALITY of it being a dangerous "hobby!" I worried he'd get interested in flying himself when last tour's pianist was a helicopter pilot! JOSH IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY GO FOR IT "Whatever makes you happy, Michael...uh, Josh! Go for it?" NO! That was only for YOU! There's no love for Josh in that kind of impulsive "yes man" thinking! It's selfish and self-serving sycophanting! As I've said before, there are fans on these boards who will follow Josh to the ends of the earth, even if they thought he'd fall off! But they'd catch themselves at the edge and stand there wondering what went wrong, looking for someone ELSE to blame! Reality may be unpopular, but it's ALWAYS the answer! Flying those small planes is dangerous, and with everything you do, there are consequences. Part of the consequences of Josh learning to fly, besides his adventure, is that fans are going to distance themselves from him so they don't have to live their own lives in anticipation of having invested their hearts so wholeheartedly in him, in the depth of his meaningful music, only to lose him to tragedy. Sure, you want him to experience the joys and adventures that life has to offer, but rushing to push him into the pilot's seat without first sitting him down and going through the potentials is incredibly selfish and naive! When he's in that pilot's seat, he's going to remember and reflect upon advice given to him! Is he going to remember "Just go for it! Whatever makes you happy!" OR "Uh, Josh...wait a minute! Let's think this through..." ???? Love him ENOUGH to say..."Uh, Josh...wait a minute! Let's think this through..." I, for ONE, have no intention of checking my humanity at the door and becoming a robot of Grobania! *Creating
Josh*
Please HELP Restore these Meaningful Memories & Milestones for Josh
Integrity of the Heart: Not Selling Your *Soul* for a Lesser Goal!!
Josh's extraordinary
work requires a certain *vulnerability* among his listeners, the ability to allow oneself to *feel,* without fear, without anxiety.
His music is not passive listening, but rather of depths that are *worn* and *experienced* very, very deeply, and, as a result, likewise entrusted to one's most significant life events and meaningfulnesses, invested that profoundly. Selflessly protect that *trust,* and a world of opportunities await, for him, for them, for yourself!! Love him *enough* to keep it real! |
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Posts: 2996 (07/02/09 07:11:54) |
You have a higher chance dying of cancer then dying in a plane crash. If he wants to do it, it's none of our business. Josh is a big boy and should do what
he wants. If this makes him happy we need to lay off.
I know so many people on here who call him the angel of music on here. Well, if he's an angel, shouldn't he finally have the chance to fly? 
Sophia: Angel of all of Josh's backstage rose gifts You're still you, after all. Thank God. In 8th grade I first heard an angel sing. Yeah, his name is Josh. If you can make me smile, if you can make me laugh (despite what my past horrors are) you must be a miracle worker. |
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epalist |
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Posts: 4070 (07/02/09 12:37:17) |
*Creating
Josh*
Please HELP Restore these Meaningful Memories & Milestones for Josh
Integrity of the Heart: Not Selling Your *Soul* for a Lesser Goal!!
Josh's extraordinary
work requires a certain *vulnerability* among his listeners, the ability to allow oneself to *feel,* without fear, without anxiety.
His music is not passive listening, but rather of depths that are *worn* and *experienced* very, very deeply, and, as a result, likewise entrusted to one's most significant life events and meaningfulnesses, invested that profoundly. Selflessly protect that *trust,* and a world of opportunities await, for him, for them, for yourself!! Love him *enough* to keep it real! |
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cynthiavaughn |
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Posts: 123 (07/02/09 15:04:54) |
i am glad to hear from you all-i know that it is his life-but with all the celebrities passing away, i cannot help but worry about him. he works out and goes
out as much as possible, but it is so hard to tell if he is truly happy and he is just doing this because he is bored. john denver was a great pilot and he
was taught by his father who was in the air force. he died just doing takeoffs and landingss. so i flipped out a little and i emailed hiim that i needed a
break to step back a really look at what i saw or thought i saw in him. i decided that i was being foolish but i emailed him and told him that i was praying
for him and that i asked john to look after him if he did decide to fly. thank you all for making me realize just how foolish i have been. it is his life and
his choices. cynthiavaughn.
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Posts: 4074 (07/02/09 16:33:42) |
You're not being foolish. You're being a realist!
How people respond to Josh's interest in flying, as I said in a post above, is what will be going on with him if he puts himself in the pilot's seat and has to make sudden decisions. If all he hears is..."Just go for it, Josh! ANYTHING you wanna do! Who cares about consequences or what anyone else says! It's your life! Be as impulsive as you wanna! You only live once! Blah, blah, blah..." then he is going to reflect that should an emergency arise! Taking unnecessary chances like that is what has flown soooo many small planes and helicopters crashing into the sides of mountains in Hawaii, killing everyone on board! If he hears all the whys and wherefores of caution, of not being impulsive, not taking unnecessary chances, not thinking only of himself, of how much he is loved and needed, that people who love him are genuinely and legitimately concerned for him, that he reeeeally needs to think things through, then THAT is what he is going to reflect upon at that time. It's basic human physics. Don't impulsively send him up there in a state of imbalance. *Creating
Josh*
Please HELP Restore these Meaningful Memories & Milestones for Josh
Integrity of the Heart: Not Selling Your *Soul* for a Lesser Goal!!
Josh's extraordinary
work requires a certain *vulnerability* among his listeners, the ability to allow oneself to *feel,* without fear, without anxiety.
His music is not passive listening, but rather of depths that are *worn* and *experienced* very, very deeply, and, as a result, likewise entrusted to one's most significant life events and meaningfulnesses, invested that profoundly. Selflessly protect that *trust,* and a world of opportunities await, for him, for them, for yourself!! Love him *enough* to keep it real! |
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Posts: 5323 (07/02/09 19:35:53) |
epalist wrote:i don't normally do this on the board because replying or having a different view point only instigates unnecessary drama...but... i hardly think he's going to let what we discuss (unless maybe it has to do with music) affect his life choices. he's a grown 28 year old man. he comes off as very intelligent and mature (well mature sometimes  )
if he wants to fly, he'll do it. i understand the vast concern, it's natural to worry for someone you care about. but it's not some unnecessary chance, it's about experiencing life and discovering new ways to enhance and enjoy it. not to say there are also bad ways to do that...but this isn't one of them. there's always going to be some amount of risk, sometimes more comes with whatever it is you want to do. and you might just be getting riled up over nothing. maybe he isn't looking to do it. shrug.
Mel
Mike: As you can tell, I'm incredibly indecisive... Me: Oh so am I, all the time...at least I think so...maybe... |
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Posts: 1067 (07/03/09 13:57:12) |
Epalist, really? really... He has a better chance of dying of cancer as someone here mentioned, isn't it one of four people will get it in their lifetime??
Will one of four die in a plane crash?? He has a much better chance of dying in his Porsche in a car accident, you going to tell him to stop driving too? Just
because YOU have a issue with flying doesn't mean he should. Geesh...
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cynthiavaughn |
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Posts: 128 (07/05/09 12:17:06) |
this is true but i just have a need to protect him and if i can say something to him about it i will-don't you agrree?
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Posts: 1068 (07/05/09 18:20:04) |
Well since you asked, no I don't agree, you don't know him, I don't think you have the right to say anything to him about it. How would you like a
complete stranger saying something like that to you. And that is what we all are, strangers to him. That's what his friends and family are for, not his
fans. JMO
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cynthiavaughn |
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Posts: 129 (07/06/09 10:09:00) |
if i were josh-i would be flattered that someone i didn't know cared about me so much and thought of me and my safety above all others-it sounds like you
don't care about him.
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Posts: 1069 (07/06/09 15:18:33) |
Believe me, I care about him very much but that doesn't give me the right to tell him or give him my opinion about something he is doing in his private
life. Honestly it's nobody's business but his own and those who are actually a part of his life. The only thing I disagree with is that you feel you
have the right to tell him personally how you feel and I don't believe you do. Tell him you love him and care about him but don't tell him what to do
or, in this case, not to do. Thats all. Nothing wrong with caring about him, it's hard not too, he's so special and amazing. I understand, really I do.
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Posts: 107 (07/06/09 16:40:33) |
cynthiavaughn wrote:...Wow.. we are like polar opposites!!!!! I get annoyed and upset when people who i don't know tell me what to do (whether their intentions are bad or good)--- my first urge is to snap at them and tell them to mind their own business--- but that is just me  ( I want to be in control of my own life)
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Hard Battle" - plato
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Posts: 7191 (07/07/09 07:01:31) |
Do you guys honestlythink Josh will read the boards to see what adivice we wold give him before doing such a thing as getting a flight certificate?
Epalist, really? Sure, you want him to experience the joys and adventures that life has to offer, but rushing to push him into the pilot's seat without first sitting him down and going through the potentials is incredibly selfish and naive! When he's in that pilot's seat, he's going to remember and reflect upon advice given to him! Is he going to remember "Just go for it! Whatever makes you happy!" OR "Uh, Josh...wait a minute! Let's think this through..." ???? Lets see, before this even got up on teh forums, he was already doing simulators. Let us see on your second thing, yeah, lets "sit him down and go through the potentials"... You have his number and are you sitting down with him on a regular basis to make sure he makes safe and solid choices? Should all of us fans sit him down and talk to him and make him see all out points of views. You have bad experiences and dislike it... I have had one bad experience, I dislike flying, but I will do it because it is fast and safe. Are that the fans business to say either go for it or don't do it? Looking to myself... Heck no. If he wants to go out to a party, well have fun. He wants to take flying lessons, lets hope he has a good instructor. A friend of mine has been "going for his license" for 10 years now, but he never gets around to getting it. But he flies regularly...in lesson form. So many people here believe that just because they hang out here, that they have some say in Josh's life and doings. Reality check...we don't. From time to time we might be asked a question of what we would like certain items, like what we would like to have in the stores (so they can make more money of us  ) but in the garnd scheme of things, we have no say in what he does professionally or personally.
And thank heavens for that, cause some fans would lock him in a cage and not have him do anything but sing, compose or tour... while others would turn him into Malibu's party man #1, scratching his singing career and creatig a band because "that is what he really wants to do". Seems like most people can't see the different grey scales, only black OR white. He is 28 years old, not a little boy that the maternal fanpopulation need to "shield from the world". He has probably done more in his life by now, then most of us together, Malin
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