I was not here when all this stuff between Louise (?), the Pub (??) the Dark Side (???) etc, started. I don't understand it, and to tell you the truth,
it sounds a lot more like a soap opera than a fan site and I gave up watching soap operas a long time ago. The only thing I do know for sure is that it is all
unfortunate. This board will continue regardless of who stays and who goes and I would like to offer a suggestion for going forward. Ignore it and get over
it. By "it" I mean statements you may not like or opinions you may not agree with. I'm not suggesting that CIVILIZED discussions be stopped.
But the name calling and need to have the last word have never been, and never will be, beneficial to anyone. When trolls come, and they will, ignore them.
What they want is attention; and when they don't get it, they will leave. I firmly believe that Josh is a big boy now and can handle it.
I really wish everyone would take a deep breath and relax. I think it would be a darn shame if anyone left.
(Now I will duck to avoid the incoming...)
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Posts: 109 (07/03/08 07:03:52) |
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Posts: 6298 (07/03/08 07:39:22) |
Theres no need to duck. I would agree with you if this was just one more argument. But it goes much much deeper Im afraid, and it needs airing, and we need to
be able to say what we feel about it. This is a canker that has driven deep into this place and it needs to be cleansed.
This isnt about attention seeking anymore. Its about justice and seeing justice done...that is what we want and its not happening. And THAT is what everyone is up in arms about. We will all 'relax' when said justice is indeed done. Maggs xxxxxxx  |
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Posts: 110 (07/03/08 08:25:42) |
Maggs, it's obvious that emotions run deep in this. I appreciate that. My post
was meant more for going forward. Like I said, I wasn't here when all this started, but I can guess that it began when someone, I have no idea who, made a
comment or something that someone else didn't like and the whole thing escalated from there. My philosophy is there is always two sides to everything with
the truth being in the middle. I hope Josh doesn't get involved in this, it's not his job.
The whole thing is unfortunate. We seem to be loosing a lot here in Grobania. Nay's site, the Photo Vault, I used to love that Indy thread, and now the Vent thread too. One question: What kind of justice are you seeking? I'm sincerely just trying to understand because from my perspective, the smelly brown stuff has been thrown from all directions. "It is our choices...that show what we truly are, for more than our abilities." Dumbledore |
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Posts: 52 (07/03/08 08:28:01) |
Could not agree more, Maggs. And I hope no one here things that 'civilized discussions' haven't been tried! Believe me, they've been tried, and tried, and tried again. Ignoring has also been tried. At some point, enough is enough and the need for self-defense and for justice becomes too great to be denied. |
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Posts: 4538 (07/03/08 10:26:51) |
Evelyn- It's nice that you started this thread for the airing out of our thoughts and feelings. I agree with you that this whole thing is so sad and
unfortunate. I wish it would just go away. Like I said in the Main Forum, I wish people would just live and let live, be a little more tolerant of other
peoples' opinions, allow them to vent their feelings, and don't try to shut down anyone's forum. I guess I could have added, don't be
vindictive.
Oh, and Evelyn, you are so right. There are always two sides to a story. Maggs wrote: "We will all 'relax' when said justice is indeed done." What do you think should be done that is fair and just? What kind of "justice" are you referring to? (((Hugs))) to all who, like me, are saddened by all of the animosity. Peace! 
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Posts: 6302 (07/03/08 10:46:56) |
Cyn.. we are all saddened by the animosity.. no-one is enjoying this..
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Posts: 2108 (07/03/08 10:55:28) |
Sorry to pop in like this into your conversation.......
.......I think that by the time justice will be done, the TJGG and GPV will already be history........... 
What a BREATHTAKING VOICE! 
Josh Groban could sing a grocery list and it would still sound beautiful! RESPECT for Mr. Josh Groban! JGV - ID #002, inhabitant of the old Grobie Ranch and sister to those wonderful people living there, too! |
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Posts: 489 (07/03/08 11:23:09) |
Wow!!!
I'm busy for some hours and this mensage board is an absolut madness???? Hey, grobies, what is happening by here??? All that I can realize is that is nothing so good...
Kisses from the grobrazilian Clara,
Josh's Cellist Angel, Proud Grobie Daughter to Kathy and Grobiesister to Carli, Marcela, Siena, Yadira, Jennifer, Jasmine, Hannah, Caleigh, Ves, Vanessa, Diana, Karen, Amy, Anni, Shannon, Amy (woo4josh), Mae, Lissa, Lexxa, Colette, Mary (fault someone???) and more who wish! 
 
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Posts: 112 (07/03/08 12:02:50) |
maggaloo wrote: Maggs, what I'm trying to understand is what kind of justice are you (plural) looking for for Nay? What do you (again plural) want to happen so that
in your minds, Nay gets her justice? Obviously some nasty stuff has gone on in the past, and I'm hoping like heck that's where it stays. I'm going
to take a stab at it and say you want something to happen to this Louise person? OK, she appears to need some help, but I don't know what the mods can do
except ban her; and I think they've done that.
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Posts: 13 (07/03/08 12:41:01) |
THANK YOU!
I have no idea what the heck anyone's talking about either! It's insane!! 
Remember
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Posts: 6305 (07/03/08 12:46:17) |
I'm going to take a stab at it and say you want something to happen to this Louise person?Of course that is not what I meant at all... so please don't make those kind of stabs on my account. I want Nay to keep her site up. I want Nay not to be bullied anymore. I do want Louise to get off her back... and thats all... Im off to bed..this is all getting more than a little rediculous Maggs |
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Posts: 114 (07/03/08 13:00:41) |
maggaloo wrote: I apologize if you think I meant something sinister happening to Louise, because I didn't mean that at all. I was just trying to understand what you all want that you haven't gotten. "It is our choices...that show what we truly are, for more than our abilities." Dumbledore |
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Posts: 959 (07/03/08 13:05:14) |
Evelan wrote: Simple. All us sane, rational people want this Louise creature to shut the heck up and leave Nay alone. She's obviously a very sick person if she has to get her jollies by cyberbullying. BE A FAN -- RESPECT THE MAN!! "Alejate?"
Ah-le-HOTTIE!!!
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Posts: 115 (07/03/08 13:24:46) |
AislingGrobaniac wrote: OK, I can perfectly understand that. But what can anyone here do that they haven't already done? She's been banned. Unfortunately, I guess she can still come back if she registers under a different name. I'm not a lawyer but I imagine there are limits as to what anyone associated with Josh can do at this point. "It is our choices...that show what we truly are, for more than our abilities." Dumbledore |
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Posts: 5255 (07/03/08 14:07:17) |
Being banned is by name only. Register a new name and PRESTO, you're back.
Some others on here know a bit more about banning than others. [How it works] I think I'm wrong now but I was told that IP or ISP? banning is banning access to an area where the perpetrator lives, thus banning perhaps other fans in the area along with the perp. So it's not done much. But it's effective. Just, like I said, it could potentially ban other fans in the area. Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver! |
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Posts: 4540 (07/03/08 20:57:30) |
Maggs, I sent you a P/M.
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Posts: 10225 (07/03/08 22:04:44) Registered User |
Banning a whole ISP is not fair to the other users of that ISP. What is needed is a court order to shut that other site down, and to make sure this person does
not start up another one. I have no idea how much that would cost, but that is probably what would have to happen. This person will not stop until she is
forced to. One way or the other.
BUMPERSTICKER --- Stupidity is NOT a handicap
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Posts: 2 (07/04/08 00:51:48) |
And that is precisely what should have been done....a court order....long ago. Why now bring all this crap to the board and punish thousands of fans by
threatening to close TJGG? It could have been handled in a much better way, imo.
And for the record, I seriously doubt TJGG will go anywhere. This was a calculated move by Nay to force the hand of WBR because she has been bragging for months now that Josh will make it known where he stands. The fact that Josh has not said what he wants by now is a humiliation for her so she resorted to this form of coercion. She's been planning this for a week or more and actually sent out a bulletin to her friends to let her know she was planning this move. And although Louise Miller is not a nice person, Nay is using it to her advantage and making Louise the scapegoat. Don't flame me....I like Nay and despise the other site. But I'm just calling it like I see it. And I guess that makes me a bad Grobanite. The turtles got detoured, but only temporarily, imo. 
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Posts: 6307 (07/04/08 02:55:56) |
Jojo.,, could I ask you to read Nays posts in the other thread.. she explains fully why she has done this, and you are wrong about her trying to force
Josh's hand.. that is so not true..
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Posts: 2339 (07/04/08 05:14:25) |
Evelan said " .... This board will continue regardless of who stays and who goes ....."
I don't feel so confident as you, I'm afraid. I fear that WBR could or would close down jg.com with one flick of a switch. They have probably had a gut-full from all the in-fighting over the years. This current issue is MAJOR! I've never seen it this bad before. This too shall pass ... but it could mean jg.com going poof. 
TTFN, Angela (Melbourne, Australia)
A voice like Josh's comes along only once in a lifetime. I'm glad it's OUR lifetime. (Josh Groban's) music washes away from the soul, the dust of everyday life. We have forgotten how to be good guests, how to walk lightly on the earth as other creatures do - 1972 Only One Earth Conference |
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